Postby jam393 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:42 pm, Postby wirelessjunkie » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:13 pm, Postby jam393 » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:31 pm, Postby wirelessjunkie » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:16 am, Postby chuck_roxas45 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:01 am, Postby ThePeacent » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:10 pm, Postby dogrunner » Sun Oct 29, 2017 2:49 pm, Postby ZrowsN1s » Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:14 pm, Postby Michael Janich » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:46 am, Postby ThePeacent » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:54 am, Postby ZrowsN1s » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:08 am, Postby ThePeacent » Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:08 am, Postby ZrowsN1s » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:30 pm, Users browsing this forum: archangel, Bing [Bot], Mushroom, RamZar, Spydergirl88, Wartstein and 43 guests. It almost has to be held in the icepick-blade-towards-yout grip. I ultimately ended up with the Yojimbo 2, because of the wharncliffe blade for easier everyday use, size in pocket and the comp lock. If you arent comfortable defending yourself quickly in reverse grip then you might prefer the Yojimbo, but you'll need to train how you're gonna open it quickly. Strategically machined holes in the blade lighten it to match the weight of the live knife (to within two grams) and, along with textured red G-10 scales, clearly identify this knife as a training tool. Buy Spyderco Yojimbo 2 Specialty Tactical Folding Knife with 3.2" CPM S30V Steel Black Wharncliffe Blade and Durable Black G-10 Handle - PlainEdge - C85GPBBK2: Pocket Knives & Folding Knives - Amazon.com FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases It is a slim knife with thin G10 scales over a full tang… The P’Kal has a fully flat ground, 2.95” (75 mm) modified Wharncliffe style blade. Hope you enjoy this new Blade HQ Exclusive Yojimbo 2, the Knife of the Day! Thanks! I have been carrying the original blue model for over 10 years now and it’s one of my favorite knives. Thought I'd put my 2 cents worth in this topic, since for the first time in my life I've been considering a knife for self defense. The two knives are designed for different styles of fighting. I'd choose my brain, my feet and my gun over a knife for self defense. Spyderco yojimbo 2 or para 3? Bought this partly out of curiosity to compare to Mike Janich's Yojimbo 2. Re: P'Kal vs. Yojimbo vs. Chinook Post by jdw » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:05 pm I love my Yojimbo as a utility knife and it has absolutely amazing ergos BUT as a completely untrained SD specialist I would want a Civilian in my hand in a real life situation that would be … It also has the thickest tip from the factory. Crucible Steel Company’s proprietary powdered cutlery steel is one of the best knife steels on the market with its h… I've been trying to decide which knife to for the last 2 months, I'm leaning towards the yojimbo 2, but sill can't decide. Re: P'Kal vs. Yojimbo vs. Chinook Post by benben » Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:54 pm I've missed out on the Ayoob several times and swore if another Sprint run were released, I wouldn't miss it. The Yo2 was designed with Michael Janich's Martial Blade Concept. i probably shouldn’t answer this question as i only have experience with the yojimbo of all the knives you mentioned. The Chinook 2 is the biggest and heaviest of the bunch. I have a friend who trained a lot of martial arts with edged weapons and he always recommends a good pair of running shoes. As a “reverse-edge” tool, the P’Kal’s handle is ergonomically designed to be held with the sharpened edge facing inward toward the user to facilitate powerful pulling cuts. I typically carry a folder, and I've often carried a Yojimbo 2 for this reason. Die Wharnecliffe-Klinge aus CPM-S-30V ist Garant für enorme Schneidleistung bei Kappschnitten und allen Schneidarbeiten frei Hand. As such, I'm thinking of getting another Spyderco as a dedicated self defense knife that doesn't get left behind. Designed by noted personal-defense trainer Michael Janich, the Yojimbo2 is an evolved expression of his original Spyderco Yojimbo design, which pioneered the application of the Wharncliffe blade in tactical folders. I enjoy the conversations about knives, gun, whatever. Spyderco, Inc. 820 Spyderco Way Golden, CO 80403-8053. P’kal vs. Yojimbo 2. but, two things of note about the yojimbo: Don’t forget the Matriarch/ Lil Matriarch. Careers / Employment Opportunities Not a custom but a nice knife nonetheless. I should have been more clear in my earlier post. The p'kal was designed for a Reverse Grip Edge In style. Spyderco zavedl do seriové výroby mnoho funkcí, které jsou nyní běžné u zavíracích nožů téměř všech značek, jako je například kapesní klip, vroubky na hřbetu čepele. Follow me on Instagram@keithkevinken. I've seen all the reviews, forums and other crap, still the 2 knives are just so similar I simply just can't chose. They also encourage a thumb-forward … It definitely feels solid and the heft isn't a bad thing. I like the Yojimbo because it has the most utility for my EDC, so it's a dual-function kind of knife. MODIFIED Spyderco Yojimbo 2 Knife - ACID WASH - C85GP2 ***These knives have been modified by the KnivesPlus Team. It is … The PKal deploys fastest due to the posts on the spine that act like an Emerson opener, but puts you in reverse grip right off the bat because its designed to be used like this. As Sal said, there are different styles and training each design compliments. Never dropped the pkal when I had it but I've dropped a yo2 and broke a little bit off the tip. It’s lightweight, opens fast and is super sharp. I'm considering either the P'kal, the Yojimbo 2, or the Chinook 2. The blade is constructed out of 0.125” (3.2 mm) CPM S30V stainless steel. Yojimbo is a 1961 Japanese period film in which two feuding crime bosses attempt to hire a wandering samurai (ronin) who has arrived in their town. I typically carry a gun, but I'm not permitted to for the job I do. Thanks for taking time to reply. Gotta agree with Mr.Janich here...the Endura Emerson is a very balanced folder for all categories, from normal EDC use, to defensive scenarios. But I really agree with the run first mentality. I appreciate your time and help. In general, I would think the Ronin-2 is a bit on the large side for what I typically think of when I think pocket sheath fixed-blade. Imagine having to unfold your gun after drawing it, while you're full of adrenaline. It offers the deployment advantages of the Wave without the commitment to reverse-edge methods. Carries very easily too. The P'kal was actually the first Spyderco I bought and I really did love it, but my preferences have changed a little bit over the years I suppose. The new Yojimbo 2 trainer is mechanically identical to its live-blade counterpart, but features a full-thickness CTST BD1 stainless steel blade that is carefully radiused to allow safe contact. I am interested in both the p’kal and Yojimbo 2 for a defensive knife when I don’t conceal carry. The clip is four-position, as opposed to the two-position clip of the original, which allows the knife to be carried right, left, tip up or tip down. I’d really sit down and think of what your preferred/most proficient mode of defense is and choose the knife that suits that. For that reason I'd vote Pikal out of your two choices, but I would also consider fixed versions of both models. Thanxs und Greetz Zwen Thanks. Das Spyderco YoJimbo II ist die überarbeitete Version von Michael Janichs Erfolgsmodell und bietet eine optimierte Ergonomie für noch bessere Kontrolle. Just had a shiny spot on the tip where it landed. Spyderco Counterfeits, Clones, Replicas, etc. I enjoy these forums and wanted to get some facts on both knives. Best ergonomics out there, amazing knife. If you are comfortable with any of those styles, choose accordingly. I have been considering the Yojimbo 2 or P’kal for a defensive knife. The handle length is roughly the same as Spyderco’s very popular Delica model, which makes the Yojimbo 2 very compact and suitable for in-pocket carry if one chooses not to use the clip. My job takes me into dangerous areas and I wanted a blade that was high quality and reliable. Yojimbo all day. I can however get away with carrying a knife as long as it's well concealed. Wie sagt Ihr dazu? So if tip strength is a factor the Chinook would win. Superb, It's Spyderco. The Yojimbo 2 looks more practical for carry, but the P’kal trips my trigger as well with the Emerson Wave. The refined ergonomics of the Yojimbo2 complement the natural contours of the hand, ensuring maximum surface contact and positive control. Any opinions on which of these is the better self defense knife? It will give you satisfaction in life. It easily shrugged off a 3 foot drop onto cement. Really like this out the box. Designed by Michael Janich, the Spyderco Yojimbo2 is an evolved expression of the original Yojimbo knife featuring a unique Wharncliffe blade. SHARPEN IT LIKE YOU LOVE IT, USE IT LIKE YOU HATE IT, A day without laughter is a day wasted. The P’Kal is probably the most specialized of the knives you listed, at least when used in the manor it was designed. Reason I say this is (and I find it odd you'd be asking MA advice on a knife forum) they're different knives. Some of our modifications include acid washing, anodizing, regrinding, and … Spyderco Yojimbo 2 Specialty Tactical Folding Knife with 3.2" CPM S30V Steel Black Wharncliffe Blade and Durable Black G-10 Handle - PlainEdge - C85GP2 4.8 out of 5 stars 340 $151.20 Unless you plan on getting some real training with any of these knives, I would choose any knife that feels the most second nature to you to draw and open. If you like reverse grip style, this one is hard to beat for all the reasons TP noted. Designed to cut with unrelenting power all the way to the point, its broad straight-edged blade is hollow-ground from corrosion-resistant CTS-BD1 stainless steel. Spyderco’s current Yojimbo 2 is an improved version of the original Yojimbo, which debuted in… I'm looking for a dedicated self defense knife.My first choice was the Spyderco Civilian but the blade actually sticks out quite a bit as it's curved and makes carrying it in the pocket somewhat uncomfortable. In that case Id say get whichever of the two you feel suits your trained instinctive fighting style with a knife the best. I would appreciate any thoughts on these knives and your preference. As several forumites have already pointed out, training is the key. If you're going to carry a knife for self-defense, you should train to develop appropriate skills with it. I can't argue with TP's reasoning, but I also really like the Reverse as a fixed blade option, which might not be available for long (disco'd). Das das P'Kal nun auch wieder im 2012 Programm angeboten wird, läßt darauf deuten, das es sich auch nicht um eine Eintagsfliege, sonder num ein gefragtes Modell bei Spyderco handelt. Not the answer you're looking for...........pistol. SHARPEN IT LIKE YOU LOVE IT, USE IT LIKE YOU HATE IT. If you're having to ask this question then you should probably be looking for something other than a knife to defend yourself with. I own a Yojimbo and a Chinook 3, I have zero training in knife SD tactics and would HATE to ever be put in that situation for I believe it would probably get ugly for me! The down side is that trainers are no longer made for it. Designed by noted personal-defense trainer Michael Janich, the Yojimbo 2 is an evolved expression of his original Spyderco Yojimbo design, which pioneered the application of … -Kevin. Both knives are solid, get whichever one you will have to think the least about using while under stress. Explore both skill sets and put them into perspective with your needs, your physical attributes, and the legalities of self-defense. Others worth mentioning as well are the Karahawk and PPT which were also designed specifically for self defense. When open it looks like a tool, a box cutter, … Continue reading "Spyderco Yojimbo 2" Spyderco Counterfeits, Clones, Replicas, etc. Focus on what ergonomics feel the most natural to you. I don't carry knives for self defense use, but if I did my first choice is a fixed blade, second choice is a waved folder, third choice is a regular folder. Craig Douglas prefers edge-in tactics, whereas I prefer edge-out. As the name implies, the Yojimbo 2 is an evolution of the original Yojimbo model from Spyderco. This limited-edition Exclusive version of the Spyderco Yojimbo™ 2 was specially produced for JB Outman Distributing and is unique in several ways. On that basis, the P'Kal and Yojimbo 2 have the advantage, as dedicated training versions are available (A trainer for a Chinook would have to be created from a live blade, which is less than optimal.). Read about how each knife was designed to be used. Postby ladybug93 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:12 pm, Postby ChrisinHove » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:39 am, Postby zuludelta » Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:07 am, Postby Sonorum » Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:10 am, Postby zuludelta » Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:14 am, Postby VashHash » Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:24 am, Postby Michael Janich » Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:49 am, Postby swigert » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:07 am, Postby TomAiello » Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:01 am, Postby VooDooChild » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:45 pm, Postby ZrowsN1s » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:04 pm, Users browsing this forum: archangel, Mushroom, RamZar, Spydergirl88, Wartstein and 43 guests. The leading edge of the Wharncliffe blade design only amplifies the ripping qualities of the P’Kal, since the energy applied during the cut is transferred toward the tip. I think the Yojimbo is more up my alley. Yojimbo, or “bodyguard,” is a fitting name for Spyderco’s Michael Janich-designed defensive folding knife. I love my Yojimbo as a utility knife and it has absolutely amazing ergos BUT as a completely untrained SD specialist I would want a Civilian in my hand in a real life situation that would be desperate enough to need a knife. For instance, I subscribe to the concept of using a Wharncliffe blade to slash and disable, I feel it is the most natural and effective motion for someone with minimal training, so something like the Yojimbo (or the Civilian you currently have) would compliment that defense style. There are details that make certain knives better for certain types of self defense but without proper training you need to at least be able to draw the knife in the heat of an attack reliably. We take great care in our modifying process to guarantee that they function as intended. I sometimes roll my eyes a bit when the whole dedicated self defense knife topic comes up. Designed by Sal with plenty of input from Craig Douglas of ShivWorks, the knife is heavily influenced by Craig Douglas's earlier fixed blade Disciple, being essentially a folding version of that knife. Thanks! If a knife is your preference then you need to learn a martial art that focuses on blade use, and then after some more experience you will know exactly which of the two blades will work best for your defensive intentions. There are trainers available for the Yojimbo and P’kal if you wanted to go that route. I am a former LEO and now conduct investigations for an insurance company. Phone: 303-279-8383 Toll-Free: 800-525-7770 Fax: 303-278-2229.